{"id":1140,"date":"2010-09-01T06:01:04","date_gmt":"2010-09-01T10:01:04","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.wilktone.com\/?p=1140"},"modified":"2010-09-01T06:01:04","modified_gmt":"2010-09-01T10:01:04","slug":"embouchure-questions-2","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/wilktone.com\/?p=1140","title":{"rendered":"Another Embouchure Question"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">I got another question via email that I&#8217;m going to try to answer today. &nbsp;As always, take my response with a grain of salt. &nbsp;It&#8217;s very hard to diagnose technique issues without being able watch the musician play in person.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Ken writes:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\"><p>Is there any way to look at a persons lips and decide which mouthpiece\u00a0would be best? Every teacher starts at Bach 7C but I have read that\u00a0people with a dew or tear drop have a particular hard time and are\u00a0advised to pick a different instrument. I have struggled in High School\u00a0and quit. I have tried three times and quit. I am now 60 years old and\u00a0am trying one last time. . . \u00a0For the first time I am making some progress. But I can&#8217;t tell how bad the dew is since nobody seems to know much. So is there\u00a0some test or book I can compare my lips to and decide if I should\u00a0continue or throw in the towel?<\/p><\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">First, don&#8217;t give up! &nbsp;If you are interested in playing trumpet (or any brass instrument), the key to playing well is to learn how your breathing, tonguing, embouchure and other factors interact with each other. &nbsp;Some of these things take some time to learn and are really best done under the guidance of a good teacher. &nbsp;Sometimes players can figure things out on their own, but sometimes a little push in the right direction is all a student needs to break through.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Secondly, I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s really possible to simply look at a player&#8217;s lips and determine what mouthpiece qualities would work best for a particular player. &nbsp;Sometimes people will speculate that a player with thick or thin lips is better suited for one or another instrument, but if you look around at good players you&#8217;ll see so many exceptions that I wouldn&#8217;t recommend a particular instrument based on lip size or shape. (Athough, there are some cases where a low brass mouthpiece may be too large for a player&#8217;s face and the nose or chin can get in the way, but it&#8217;s often possible to change rim sizes and make it work.)<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">That said, there are some mouthpiece qualities that players belonging to certain <a href=\"https:\/\/wilktone.com\/?p=7337\">embouchure types<\/a> may find helpful (please look through that link to understand exactly what I mean by the following embouchure types). \u00a0The Medium High Placement players don&#8217;t usually want to go with too big a mouthpiece cup as they often have a big and dark sound naturally. \u00a0Very High Placement players often find that a larger rim diameter helps and if they want a darker sound can sometimes go with a deeper cup than Medium High Placement players. \u00a0Low Placement types players similarly may use a deeper cup for a darker sound, but on low brass they often don&#8217;t want to go with too large a rim as the chin may get in the way. \u00a0These are not always the case, however.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">As far as your &#8220;dew drop&#8221; goes, I haven&#8217;t gotten a close enough look at enough players with them to say for certain that it will have a noticeable effect on your embouchure. &nbsp;Some players don&#8217;t seem to have any issues with it, while I&#8217;ve heard of others who place the mouthpiece off to one side. &nbsp;Since many players do best with an off-center placement, I can&#8217;t really say whether a prominent &#8220;dew drop&#8221; makes an off-center placement better. &nbsp;I suspect that it isn&#8217;t as large a factor as things like the length of the lips to the teeth or the shape of the teeth and jaw.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><a href=\"http:\/\/www.thomasstevensmusic.com\/biography.php\">Thomas Stevens<\/a> is a fine trumpet player with a pretty prominent dew drop (follow the link to see a photo). &nbsp;I wasn&#8217;t able to find any photos or video online that show a close look of where he places his mouthpiece. &nbsp;If anyone out there knows of one, or knows first hand how Stevens places the mouthpiece, it would be interesting to see. &nbsp;There is a <a href=\"http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=bjF3hOGVOnc\">video<\/a> on YouTube of Stevens performing one of his compositions, along with Gabriele Cassone and Hakan Hardenberger. &nbsp;It&#8217;s a pretty cool piece.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">There is a distinct possibility that it&#8217;s not your horizontal placement that&#8217;s causing your troubles, but the vertical placement. \u00a0Take another look at the <a href=\"https:\/\/wilktone.com\/?p=7337\">three basic embouchure types<\/a> and note how these different types have different ratios of upper to lower lip inside the mouthpiece. \u00a0While you&#8217;re trying out placing the mouthpiece to one side or another, you might mess around with placing the mouthpiece higher and lower on your lips to see if you can find a &#8220;sweet spot&#8221; where things open up. \u00a0I&#8217;d try this experimentation with the high end of the middle register and upper register, since it&#8217;s too easy to play wrong in the lower register and it won&#8217;t really be a good test of whether you&#8217;ve found your correct embouchure type. \u00a0Rest lots while experimenting and don&#8217;t use too much mouthpiece pressure.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">It&#8217;s really best to have someone experienced in typing embouchures help you out with all that. &nbsp;If you have access to a teacher that is curious about embouchures, you might have him or her take a look at some of my resources and try to offer you some guidance that way.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Anyone out there have anything to add about the dew drop feature? &nbsp;Do you have one and find that you place best off to one side because of it or does it not really matter? &nbsp;Has anyone worked with any students like this and found something that might help Ken out? &nbsp;Please leave your comment below.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I got another question via email that I&#8217;m going to try to answer today. &nbsp;As always, take my response with a grain of salt. &nbsp;It&#8217;s very hard to diagnose technique issues without being able watch the musician play in person. Ken writes: Is there any way to look at a persons lips and decide which &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/wilktone.com\/?p=1140\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading <span class=\"screen-reader-text\">Another Embouchure Question<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":15350306,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"advanced_seo_description":"","jetpack_seo_html_title":"","jetpack_seo_noindex":false,"jetpack_seo_schema_type":"","_jetpack_newsletter_access":"","_jetpack_dont_email_post_to_subs":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_tier_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paywalled_content":false,"_wpcom_ai_launchpad_first_post":false,"_jetpack_feature_clip_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"{title}\n\n{excerpt}\n\n{url}","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":false,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2},"_wpas_customize_per_network":false,"jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false},"categories":[1362,1369],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-1140","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-brass","category-embouchure"],"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_likes_enabled":true,"jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack_shortlink":"https:\/\/wp.me\/peFHCc-io","jetpack-related-posts":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/wilktone.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1140","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/wilktone.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/wilktone.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/wilktone.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/15350306"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/wilktone.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=1140"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/wilktone.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1140\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/wilktone.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=1140"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/wilktone.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=1140"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/wilktone.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=1140"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}